Kokanee Crankworx Garbanzo Endurance DH: What are they running?

by Matthew Mallory
Jul 21, 2011 at 14:57

The Garbanzo Endurance Downhill start is about three quarters of the way up Whistler Mountain. With snow covering much of the area the racers were somewhat corralled. This gave us the perfect opportunity to check out what bikes, components and tires the racers were running. With this in mind we randomly chose fifty amateurs and fifty pros to see what gear they have chosen to hang on their frames. Sit back, take a gander and remember most of this equipment has been chosen for its performance and durability in a downhill setting.

With limited room in the start area nobody could escape from us scrutinizing their bikes.
With limited room in the start area nobody could escape from us scrutinizing their bikes.

Amateurs -

Frames:
Specialized Demo 8 (2011) 12%
Giant Glory 12%
Transition TR450 8%
Trek Session 8%
Commencal V3 8%
Santa Cruz Carbon V10 6%
Iron Horse Sunday 6%
Specialized Demo 8 (pre 2011) 4%
Cove Shocker 4%
Intense 951 4%
Intense M9 4%
Xprezo Furax 4%
Intense Socom 2%
Yeti 303 2%
Santa Cruz V10 2%
Lapierre DH Team 2%
Kona Operator 2%
Scott Gambler 2%
Specialized Demo 7 2%
Rocky Mountain Flatline 2%
Norco Shore 2%
Devinci Wilson (pre 2011) 2%


Forks:
Fox 4044%
Rock Shox Boxxer World Cup22%
Rock Shox Boxxer Team12%
Rock Shox Boxxer Race8%
Marzocchi 8888%
Manitou Dorado4%
Rock Shox Domain2%


Rear Shocks:
Fox DHX 5.066%
RockShox Vivid12%
Fox DHX RC410%
RockShox Vivid Air6%
Fox DHX Air2%
Elka2%
Cane Creek2%


Rear Derailleurs:
SRAM X932%
Shimano Saint30%
SRAM X018%
SRAM X712%
Shimano XT6%
Shimano SLX2%


Brakes:
Shimano Saint42%
Avid Elixir40%
Avid Codes8%
Avid Juicy 54%
Formula The ONE4%
Shimano XT2%


Front Tires:
Maxxis Minion DHF 3C50%
Maxxis Minion DHF Super Tacky22%
Maxxis High Roller 3C8%
Maxxis High Roller Super Tacky6%
Maxxis Ardent2%
Maxxis Minion DHF 60a2%
Hutchinson Barracuda2%
Specialized Butcher DH2%
Syncros FL Tire2%
Kenda Nevegal2%
Schwalbe Muddy Mary2%


Rear Tires:
Maxxis Minion DHF 3C36%
Maxxis Minion DHF Super Tacky22%
Maxxis High Roller 3C12%
Maxxis High Roller Super Tacky10%
Maxxis Ardent8%
Maxxis Minion DHF 60a4%
Maxxis High Roller 60a2%
Specialized Butcher DH2%
Hutchinson Barracuda2%
Schwalbe Muddy Mary2%

Mick Hannah is so confident in his bike and it's components that he has nothing to worry about at the start except playing rock, paper, scissors. At least that is what it looks like.
Mick Hannah is so confident in his bike and it's components that he has nothing to worry about at the start except playing rock, paper, scissors. At least that is what it looks like.


Pros -

Frames:
Specialized Demo 8(2011)16%
Santa Cruz Carbon V1012%
Devinci Wilson (2011)10%
Giant Glory10%
Trek Session8%
Intense M98%
Banshee Legend6%
Specialized Demo 8 (pre 2011)4%
Kona Operator4%
Intense 9514%
Transition TR4504%
Evil Revolt4%
Commencal Supreme DH2%
GT Fury2%
Cove Shocker2%
Lapierre DH Team2%
Saracen Myst2%


Forks:
RockShox Boxxer World Cup44%
Fox 4028%
Marzocchi 88814%
Manitou Dorado8%
RockShox Boxxer Team6%


Rear Shocks:
Fox DHX RC458%
RockShox Vivid18%
Marzocchi Rocco8%
Manitou Revox4%
RockShox Vivid Air4%
Elka2%
Cane Creek2%
X-Fusion Vector2%
Fox DHX 5.02%


Rear Derailleurs:
SRAM X044%
Shimano Saint36%
SRAM X914%
Shimano XT4%
SRAM X72%


Brakes:
Shimano Saint34%
Avid Codes28%
Avid XO14%
Avid Elixir10%
Hayes Ace4%
Shimano XT4%
Avid Juicy 72%
Formula The ONE2%
Hope-Tech V22%


Front Tires:
Maxxis Minion DHF 3C48%
Maxxis Minion DHF Super Tacky22%
Schwalbe Dirty Dan8%
Specialized Butcher DH4%
Specialized Chunder DH4%
Maxxis High Roller 3C4%
Maxxis High Roller Super Tacky2%
Maxxis Swamp Thing2%
Schwalbe Wicked Will2%
Continental Rain King2%
Kenda Nevegal2%


Rear Tires:
Maxxis Minion DHF 3C36%
Maxxis Minion DHF Super Tacky24%
Maxxis High Roller 3C14%
Schwalbe Dirty Dan8%
Specialized Butcher DH4%
Specialized Chunder DH4%
Maxxis High Roller Super Tacky2%
Maxxis Swamp Thing2%
Schwalbe Wicked Will2%
Continental Rain King2%
Kenda Nevegal2%


Marcelo Gutierrez and his rig on their way to second place in the Garbanzo DH.
Marcelo Gutierrez and his rig on their way to second place in the Garbanzo DH.



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82 Comments

  • + 55
flag Nobble (Jul 22, 2011 at 0:44)
 Sorry for the double post, but i just wanted to say that i really like these gear checks, they give an interesting look at what people are running. Keep these coming PB
  • + 19
flag suicidedownhiller (Jul 22, 2011 at 1:46)
 I agree, super cool post. Would love to see a couple each year at the different events, one at the rampage/chatel, World cups, 4x/dual slaloms, dirtjumps/slopestyle. Very cool.
  • + 6
flag cornwallextreme (Jul 22, 2011 at 8:20)
 i like, but any chance it could be changed so that its set out side by side? to make for quick and easy comparisson.
  • + 1
flag nail2529 (Jul 22, 2011 at 9:48)
 i like and ok i have never been to whistler but was quite suprise buy some of it like sram dommanting rear derailleurs :-S and hardy any sign of any hope breaks
  • + 5
flag z-man (Jul 22, 2011 at 9:58)
 Cause hope brakes are too expensive here. and parts suck to get.
  • + 1
flag demo8jack (Jul 22, 2011 at 13:28)
 because its all about sram, hope is way too expensive for what it is, glad to see demo 8s are dominatiing it Big Grin
  • + 1
flag mtbtyrrell (Jul 22, 2011 at 16:08)
 just shows very expensive hope brakes aren't as popular as the cheaper saints?
  • + 1
flag Views (Jul 23, 2011 at 16:44)
 well, saints rock!
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  • + 32
flag Nobble (Jul 22, 2011 at 0:42)
 The switch between the popularity of 40s vs boxxer WCs was interesting, haha
  • + 2
flag smike (Jul 22, 2011 at 6:35)
 Between amateurs and pros?
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flag audeo03 (Jul 22, 2011 at 7:39)
 You mean that amateurs are split between Fox and RS, but everybody is sponsored by RS?
  • + 3
flag swearmouth (Jul 22, 2011 at 8:25)
 I don't thats neccesarily why, seeing as only 22% of pros ran a RS rear shock vs 44% with a boxxer.
  • + 3
flag Views (Jul 22, 2011 at 12:32)
 popular and good are different things ;-)
  • + 1
flag Nobble (Jul 22, 2011 at 18:45)
 Not really, the good stuff is popular
  • + 4
flag dhdeven (Jul 22, 2011 at 19:06)
 Not always^
  • + 3
flag Nobble (Jul 22, 2011 at 19:09)
 Most of the time, stuff becomes popular because its good...
  • + 1
flag cdbfree (Jul 23, 2011 at 1:42)
 or if its marketed extremely well and thoroughly...
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flag Views (Jul 23, 2011 at 9:32)
 dude, the marketing industry is a very high $$$ industry, they sell shit if they want to, believe me!
  • - 1
flag Nobble (Jul 23, 2011 at 15:14)
 Hayes is marketed hugely... Everyone still knows its shit...
  • + 2
flag swearmouth (Jul 23, 2011 at 16:52)
 See, comments like that are just pointless. Making blanket statements about everything a company has made without any support is just stupid. And furthermore, have you even tried the new Primes? They're the nicest brakes I've ever used other than formula the ones.
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  • + 11
flag iamamodel (Jul 22, 2011 at 1:19)
 The pro/amateur split was a great idea - it shows the difference between what riders are using because they have to, and what riders are using because they want to.
  • + 3
flag suicidedownhiller (Jul 22, 2011 at 1:47)
 Which is why I was wondering why some pros were on an X7 or a DHX 4.0..privateer racers in the pro categrory perhaps?
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flag Art-of-Aragon (Jul 22, 2011 at 2:12)
 True, but it makes me think of how much influence the pro's bikes,gears and suspension have on the rest of rider's choices.
Sponsors are one of the best forms of advertising in sports.
  • + 1
flag mmallory (Jul 22, 2011 at 7:47)
 There were a lot of privateers in the Pro category, racing is expensive so many will try to save a few dollars by replacing derailleurs with the X7.
  • + 1
flag alexisfire (Jul 25, 2011 at 9:51)
 I wouldn't say that this shows the difference between what riders have to use and what riders want to use at all.
Can all amateurs afford everything they want?
Do all pros end up with everything they want, or are they using whoever pays them the most?
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  • + 8
flag brit-100 (Jul 22, 2011 at 1:19)
 Are those presenters/commentators for real, or did I miss a joke somewhere?
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  • + 8
flag sup3rc0w (Jul 22, 2011 at 3:41)
 Not one person rides on a BOS equipped bike?
  • + 2
flag manchicken (Jul 22, 2011 at 4:25)
 Looks like you beat me to it. Disgraceful isn't it?
  • + 1
flag sup3rc0w (Jul 22, 2011 at 6:25)
 Sickening in fact Smile
  • + 1
flag gigglekick (Jul 22, 2011 at 9:24)
 BOS forks are heavier than say boxxers or 40's and not overly reliable so I'm not that surprised
  • + 2
flag sup3rc0w (Jul 22, 2011 at 10:45)
 LOL - my BOS IDylle's have lasted 2 years without the need for a service, and are by far the most reliable forks in the market.
The 2012 Idylle's are also in fact lighter than the Boxxer RC2C
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  • + 6
flag ir0cks (Jul 22, 2011 at 0:30)
 Most people put the DHF in both front and rear for more traction as far as i know. Not typo, the just riders pref
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  • + 5
flag andywild (Jul 22, 2011 at 1:59)
 Great idea! Probably the best coverage during crankworx 2011! - Sad but true...
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  • + 5
flag emotion-captured (Jul 22, 2011 at 6:35)
 Iron Horse Sunday STILL UP THERE REPRESENT!
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  • + 2
flag davidstuartkelly (Jul 22, 2011 at 7:37)
 MMMMMMM, very interesting article indeed. I wonder how it would differ from what the Sponsors give and what the Riders really prefer.Or are all the riders Happy with what they use???.
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  • + 3
flag gastonbx (Jul 22, 2011 at 9:02)
 Excellent info guys, great assessment. One question though, no body uses road rear derailleurs? Like sora, tiagra, etc? Using road cogs, obviusly.
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  • + 1
flag foghorn1 (Jul 23, 2011 at 19:31)
 Thanks for the gear post, the footage was lame tho. Let's save a few bucks by getting third rate announcers... what we dont' have video cameras? ok lets duct tape some cellphones to the trees, nobody will notice the difference.. Producer? What does a producer do? Oh we totally don't need that. See if cousin Jimmy has time to do some editing on imovie for us...
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  • + 3
flag mhailo (Jul 22, 2011 at 1:35)
 Under Pro frames, 'Saracen Madison' should be 'Saracen Myst' right? As Madison is the team.
  • + 3
flag haighd2 (Jul 22, 2011 at 2:21)
 you are correct, also its Saracen not Sarancen.
  • + 1
flag mmallory (Jul 22, 2011 at 7:41)
 My apologies, I will make the correction.
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  • + 2
flag burdkingo (Jul 22, 2011 at 4:59)
 I enjoy these kind of articles, especially getting a look at what amateur racers are using.
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  • + 2
flag southwestdh (Jul 22, 2011 at 2:46)
 just pointin out the sarecen is not madison thats the team its a sarecen myst
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  • + 1
flag TomBasic (Jul 22, 2011 at 10:16)
 What's up with the Pivot Cycles Phoenix? Is nobody running those things? Are they too expensive/boutique? Comments...?
  • + 1
flag seraph (Jul 22, 2011 at 12:08)
 Well the Phoenix has only been around for about a year now in the consumer market, so I think that bikes like the Demo and V10 beat it in terms of race-proven rideability.
  • + 1
flag alexisfire (Sep 2, 2011 at 22:55)
 This might be a dead page, but just saw this. Anyone know how different a Phoenix is than a Wilson? And whats the story with Dave Weagle designing so many different bikes?
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  • + 1
flag JimLad (Jul 22, 2011 at 2:55)
 66% use the DHX5 but over 50% have frames that comes with RC4s or another shock?
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  • + 1
flag Fontoker666 (Jul 23, 2011 at 4:32)
 Surprised seeing the Demo 7 duking it out, not bad for a FR slugging with DH bikes!
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  • + 1
flag russone (Jul 23, 2011 at 11:06)
 Hey PB, can you guys optimize you're vid players to work on on droid platforms already?
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  • + 2
flag jclnv (Jul 22, 2011 at 0:33)
 So nobody was running a DHX RC4 LOL!
  • + 3
flag Waldon83 (Jul 22, 2011 at 0:42)
 The RC4 is a Fox DHX RC4
  • + 1
flag brule  (Jul 22, 2011 at 0:42)
 Fixed - minor typo.
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  • + 2
flag BLIPDH (Jul 22, 2011 at 0:56)
 haha +1 for the caption on mick hannah's picture
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  • - 2
flag vertr (Jul 22, 2011 at 9:09)
 Unfortunately, the way the author displayed the information makes it virtually useless. I assume in most cases 2% means one rider. Knowing that 5 riders out of 50 use a certain frame is a pretty worthless statistic.

But for pros, why would it matter if 8% ride a particular frame? All that means is 8% of them are sponsored by a certain team.

The only surprising thing to me is that I didn't realize people still used DHX5's.
  • + 2
flag mmallory (Jul 22, 2011 at 9:28)
 You are correct with your numbers, the purpose of the article is to just show what equipment everyone was using, thats all. The majority of the pros were not fully sponsored athletes so I thought it was very interesting to see what frames they were choosing since most had to shell out their own hard earned dollars for their bikes.
Not everyone that was racing in the pro or amateur division were on brand new bikes so there were some that of course had older parts on them and I may be mistaken but I do believe that there are some bikes still spec'd with the DHX 5.0
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  • + 1
flag blu3 (Jul 22, 2011 at 6:42)
 Intresting part is that amateurs only, run on new commencal and pros run old. Typo?
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  • + 1
flag rhys-the-rider (Jul 22, 2011 at 0:24)
 interesting. either all the maxxis minions used as a rear, were the front version. Or its a typo...
  • + 16
flag freeriderdeluxe1231 (Jul 22, 2011 at 0:28)
 No, no one runs DHRs
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flag Poutiainen (Jul 22, 2011 at 0:33)
 minion dhr is worst tire ever. But I am suprised no one uses fox rc4 rear shock? that must be a typo.
  • + 1
flag nickdzw (Jul 22, 2011 at 0:33)
 wouldnt be surprised. i find the dhf to have better traction side to side and comperable front to back :/
  • + 1
flag rhys-the-rider (Jul 22, 2011 at 0:34)
 hmmm, good to know
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flag suicidedownhiller (Jul 22, 2011 at 0:58)
 It's weird, I ran a DHF once, and HATED it. But everyone I know loves them and uses them...I just kept sliding out...Is there a learning curve to them? I usually run DTC Kendas of some kind, nevegal, telonics, slant six.
  • + 1
flag mathef (Jul 22, 2011 at 5:10)
 case with DHF's is if you run them gently and calmly they slide like hell... on the other hand if you keep pinning the conrners and leaning more they grip, oh yes, they do grip. I had the same problem in the beggining, once I changed my style I loved them.
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flag rstwosix (Jul 22, 2011 at 5:27)
 I think there is a learning curve. I ride Kenda Nevegal and Excavator but I have tried Maxxis. The Kenda tyres have transition knobs which makes for a smooth change from centre to side knobs. The Maxxis Minion (and High Roller) have no transition knobs - so as you lean from centre to side knobs there is a moment of feeling like you have no grip - then as keep leaning the side knobs bite. The channel between the centre and side knobs is sometimes called the drift zone.
  • + 2
flag gamblor (Jul 22, 2011 at 5:48)
 I predict a mass firesale of used Minion DHRs on eBay/CraigsList/PB/etc shortly, LOL.
  • + 2
flag tetonlarry (Jul 22, 2011 at 6:43)
 rstwosix is absolutely right. I couldn't have said it better myself. Once you get used to the drift zone you can never go back to another type of tire. Turn, drift, drift, drift, lean over a little bit more, grip, grip, grip!
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flag seraph (Jul 22, 2011 at 12:02)
 DHF and DHR are not front and rear specific. Never have been. Just very misleading product names.
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flag extention (Jul 22, 2011 at 15:58)
 Everyone I know that runs minions run F front and rear
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flag FatTireTOKWA (Jul 22, 2011 at 6:26)
 Wow! I appreciate the variables!
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  • + 1
flag mattmrpopcorn (Jul 23, 2011 at 8:42)
 wow so that comes to show the big old coils are going out
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  • + 1
flag RyanMtb (Jul 22, 2011 at 6:15)
 that girl has a deeper voice than me.
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flag extention (Jul 22, 2011 at 15:56)
 I know there was at least one Craftworks frame in the Pro Women as well
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flag r-gibson (Jul 22, 2011 at 13:54)
 my whole setup made it into the top 2 in the amatures! YES!
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flag Views (Jul 23, 2011 at 16:52)
 your average dude! high five!
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  • + 0
flag cherouvim (Jul 22, 2011 at 1:44)
 No DHX 5.0 for the PROs when 66% of amateurs use it?
Is this a mistake, and if not, why is that so?
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flag inked-up-metalhead (Jul 22, 2011 at 2:53)
 DHX 5 been replaced by RC4. if theyre getting paid to ride, theyll (usually) be on the most up to date components.
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flag mmallory (Jul 22, 2011 at 7:41)
 Sorry the DHX 5.0 should be the DHX RC4 and the DHX 5.0 should be the DHX 4.0. Will correct.
  • + 0
flag trailjunkie12897 (Jul 22, 2011 at 10:18)
 the dhx 5.0 is an air shock now.
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flag seraph (Jul 22, 2011 at 12:04)
 No, the DHX Air 5.0 is an air shock. The DHX 5.0 is no longer made.
  • + 1
flag trailjunkie12897 (Jul 22, 2011 at 21:54)
 right.
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flag eder  (Jul 22, 2011 at 12:17)
 Is it a Vivid Air in Hannah's Fury?
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  • + 1
flag vsong (Jul 22, 2011 at 1:42)
 Interesting facts. I like um!
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  • + 1
flag chazdog (Jul 22, 2011 at 12:01)
 Go yeti 303 ams!
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